Skinny Edit. She was trying to end the fight as quickly as possible due to the power they surprisingly had, and she likely wanted to end it due to how the area would end up in the result of their fight.She wasn't intimated at all when they went SSJ, why would she? 18 was holding back as per agreement and killing your opponent means instant disqualification. If Goten and Trunks have a higher base power level than Vegeta and Trunks did during the Android saga, then they wouldn't need FPSS. What power? 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. 400,000,000,000 After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, said to be stronger than he previously was as a Super Saiyan (and at that time he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku) Fat Edit. Multipliers. Gotenks is the Metamoran fusion of Goten and Trunks, formed to defeat Majin Buu. Besides we do not know how goku would have fared against 18. He was also already away Goku could go Super Saiyan and was more just poking fun at him. The Potara fusion always seemed superior to the metamorphian (or whatever its called) though. To which Goku responded with not thinking them as much of a challenge and quickly got bored of the idea of fighting them himself. What Gohan did was just teach them as any instructor or coach would. The overall fight was filler between Goku and Vegeta vs Buuhan but they were beyond trashed.Also filler when Base Vegito fought Buuhan but that's one filler that actually fits quite well into the main story. Both Goten and Trunks are stronger than both their fathers were during the Android Saga, as well as stronger than Gohan was at only 7 and 8 respectively despite no meaningful training. These 2, while one was on top of another, gave Android 16 a fight in base form.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 started worrying about how Mighty Mask power level increased so much.When Trunks fired a simple Ki blast,18 crapped her pants at the blast coming at her.A simple Ki blast and these 2 kids got stronger in the ROSAT. Also not a battle. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. when i read it i see more surprise then anything about how powerful they are for their age and remember she hasnt really seen a supersayian fight for 7 years. Also what does Goku blasting nukes have to do with it? Also it was clear to everyone that Freeza transformed after King Cold and his crew recovered Freeza's body. Trunks and Goten transformed themselves as Super Saiyans. Get Anime Apparel here: http://bit.ly/AnimeCartoonApparel Use code meme for an Extra 5% discount ($49+)! The fact that 18 according to you "shit her pants" when they threw a ki blast is PIS since weaker versions of herself and her brother were casually nuking cities when they weren't trying. You doubt they can bust the moon? @vampiricshaman: "Naturally, it's a Super Saiyan bargain sale" I died. @deathhero61: No it isn't. Base trunks was power level 5 when Frieza read him so it's hard to say what Goku was at when Beerus said that. You have to remember, Goten/Trunks were SSJ1 amazingly early. So trunks being stronger than goku during the android saga is stupid to be honest. Goten/Powers, Stats, and Abilities < Goten. And Toriyama also revealed that 1 Kili is 1.000.000 in power level and thus SSj FP Goku is 3.000.000.000 and Yakon is 800.000.000. Saiyan. Give me your power levels. Raditz: 1,500 Farmer with Shotgun: 5. The fact that she was "scared" of their blast was PIS considering 18 is supposed to be stronger than frieza the guy who blows up planets every other day when he was alive. I seriously doubt BOS DBS Goku couldn't take Frieza. Powers and Stats. Gohan was so much stronger than cell when he owned him. Heck after the 3 year training Goku was as sure as hell stronger than trunks, so was vegeta. So Birus' estimations of Goku's ability at standard are not without merit. The only people as of now that we know seen him transform that are still alive is the Z warriors. The fact that she is supposed to be superior to frieza anyway negates this showcase entirely. Goku was casually doing two finger pushups in 100 times gravity, fighting in 100 times gravity and reacting to his own energy blasts and what not in 100 times gravity. Age: Up to 30 minutes Gender: Male Classification: Saiyan-Human Hybrid, Metamoran Fusion That is not to say he never has. they were hard pressed when fighting android 18. Super Saiyan Trunks. 3,000,000. Why SSJ Vegito was 2 leagues ahead of SSJ3 Gotenks. @dratini1331: Yeah in base level.When they turned SSJ and fired a simple Ki blast at her, she was crapping her pants at the power they released.I'd say above 18.If this was true about being around 18 power level, then their fusions shouldn't be as strong as to the point of surpassing SSJ2's and rivaling SSJ3's. Freeza only ever stated that King Vegeta never saw him transform. Looking at the fight, before Abo and Cabo started using their special abilities, Goten and Trunks were handling them rather easily. Big Sok • 7 December 2019 • User blog:Big Sok. Plus Trunks training is way better since Vegeta trains him and he probably has to train everyday. That would mean that they are more powerful than namek goku which i refuse to believe. Now we all know that it would be HIGHLY impractical for two kids the age of eight and seven respectively, to have a power level higher than pre-RoSaT Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and Trunks. A bunch of WIS fights? 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. Tier: High 4-C. Name: Goten Origin: Dragon Ball. However Freeza's power is a matter of public record throughout the empire his family built and exploited. Base Edit. Also, Bills wasn't giving that estimation based on Goku's full base potential. Classic editor History Talk (0) Share. Notable Attacks / Techniques: Ki: The fighting power and life force of a martial artist, a tangible energy derived from the user's vigor, courage, and mind. As SSJ they'd be around 100mil respectively and working together could overwhelm Freeza. Needless to say, both Goten and Trunks have a lot of training to do before they can hit the same power levels as their dear old dads, fusion or no. Oozaru= Base x10 Base. And she even said that she underestimated them which suggest she was holding back. Which, again, could mean anything. Heck he would have stomped him in base. These little guys have a huge advantage on Gohan in potential. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's, since his was slightly higher from being one year older. Gotenks is beaten by Majin Buu. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents . @deathhero61: The kids aren't that weak dude.They're just that powerful to do that to 18. Finally some new official power levels have been confirmed. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. They are based on the facts that SSj3 is SSj2 x4 and SSj2 is SSj1 x2. BTW goten and trunks did not give 18 trouble. Why does them = Namek Goku mean Goku cant launch nukes? Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. So yeah, fusion is hella OP. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. Goten and Trunks seem to have their power levels as equals, due to Goten and Trunks requesting fusion through multiple moments in Dragon Ball GT. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others 5 Discussions Trunks (トランクス) is a protagonist in the Dragon Ball manga and the anime series Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT He is the Human and Saiyan hybrid son of Bulma and Vegeta, and later the older brother of Bulla. #18 was not 'crapping her pants'. Gotenks is no older than Goten/Trunks, yet he obviously would slaughter mecha Freiza and future trunks. We also don't know how fusions are quantified, so we can't say for sure. He said that namek goku doesn't compare to goten and trunks in power. How powerful would you say goten and trunks exactly are? Anyway, the opponents he/she has beaten or fought well against must be considered over feats in order to justify power. They haven't outputted levels of power on par with at least those two in every category. Powers and Stats. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. -We're talking about a fight with even power levels. If they were far above goku in every category then that would mean during the buu saga when they were going to where buu and the others were they would have caught up in half a second. The two young Super Saiyans then fused and became Super Saiyan Gotenks. Goten vs. Trunks. Their fusion at base proceeded to murder stomp buu. Based on showcases. Neither Goten nor Trunks ever ascends beyond the level of SSJ. Due to the ROSAT however, that may bring them close to Cell Saga Super Saiyan Goku's standard, but likely not equal to (and for the record, Super Saiyan Gohan wasn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku at any point in the manga, as I saw somebody say that he was stronger here). However, based on that they'd get no further than ranking them either equal to or slightly below Cell Saga Super Vegeta (as when #18 witnessed his power, she was much more intimidated and surprised than she was when she witnessed Goten & Trunks turn into Super Saiyans). Goten and trunks based on showcases are at the very least around android level maybe just maybe frieza first or second form level. That was in the World Martial Arts right? Around Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta level to SSJ Goku (Cell Games) level. Goten pressuring GOHAN of all people in a sparring session? If so, Trunks and Goten have this one securely in the bag too. We also know that people who can sense Ki can feel the true ability of others, regardless if they are suppressing it, so long as they are near enough to feel their presence. We also know that Birus says that he doesn't feel Goku could've beaten Freeza when seeing him in base form, which most likely means he was examining Goku's full base potential, which at the time of the Buu Saga was 60mil, half of Freeza's maximum. But by the time Buu rolls around, Goku and Vegeta are both many times stronger than Gohan was at Cell. Buu Absorptions= Buu+Absrobee. Bonus: Hory shit, Gotenks 12/10. Goku and vegeta at their maxes were getting crushed by buuhan IIRC. Tier: At least High 4-C, 4-B as a Super Saiyan | 4-B | 4-B. I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. Fusion of Goten and Trunks through Fusion Dance. During his childhood, Goten was quite powerful, to the extent where he attained his Super Saiyan transformation much earlier than his brother and father. And was allot more than she thought and wanted to end the fight quickly due to how the fight might do to the stadium, plus krillin told her to holdback during tournament.) He also wears a similar orange gi to Goku's, minus the kame symbol along with a dark blue long-sleeved undershirt and black training shoes with dark blue shin guards in the Majin Buu Arc. And once they remembered how to detect their opponents, they quite easily beat down on Abo and Cabo, forcing them to merge. Saiyan saga he was launching a blast equivalent to a planet buster. Super Saiyan Trunks: 100,000,000 (had to power down to match Goten for fusion) Super Saiyan Goten: 100,000,000 Fat Gotenks: 200,000,000 (their power didn’t really increase much but didn’t go down as Gotenks felt that being Fat was a way to regulate their power. 4 years ago. We know that Goku and the rest of the Z fighters all suppress their power levels when they aren't fighting. Fusion power levels...one of the worst things when discussing DBZ lol... And she was laughing at Vegeta's Big Bang attack... like a said it may have been filler but i was wrong it was only 150 times and i forgot goku could do that later in the 100x training. Even if they were above namek goku SOMEHOW, based on that one showcase against 18 they would still be below piccolo and future trunks. I'm saying that Goten and Trunks turning SSJ is a Ki amplificationThe ki amplification argument in general is pretty baseless and if the best support you have is ToP Anime power-scaling inconsistencies (the ToP Anime is joked on for how poor Toei did its power-scaling), there's definitely a problem. @reikai: It had to be base level Frieze because Tarble wasn't around when Frieza transformed. Wow, humans > Trunks, in terms of power levels? You're using Marvel/DC rules and not how DBZ is suppose to be debated. 8.1.1 Dragon Ball Z Kai; 8.2 Saiyan Saga; 9 Raditz … Their SSJ fusion was around SSJ3 Goku and Fat Buu level from Goku's and Piccolo's words. The other two are new Super Saiyans but really took to the new power. Dragon Ball GT Edit. both Goten and trunks have power level in the tens of millions they stomp terribly. Freeza’s Transformations= Form x2. Powers and Stats. Maybe not even they can break through time and space dimensional portals and time travel so what if they don't even stand a chance against Goku Black? The fusion only lasts for 30 minutes and using Super Saiyan 3 reduces this time to 5 minutes. Assuming he did held back it woudn't matter, most people who are weaker than goku would have had a harder time blocking trunks full swing strikes, goku did it with a finger while trunks was in SSJ(which to be honest that alone proves trunks wasn't holding back) Goku already seemed to be far above everyone else and the only reason why he lost to android 19 is because of his heart disease, if it wasn't for that he would have stomped 19 in a few minutes due to gero only gathering data up to the saiyan saga. Tarble says that Abo and Cado are "As strong as Freeza was". However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's since his was slightly higher from being one year older. So 5yrs after Buu Saga the difference wouldn't be that much Even my best conservative estimates put him at a highest of 70-72mil by the time of "Battle of Gods". He has been doing that since the Piccolo junior arc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Actually yeah i do wanna hear his thoughts as well. There's no evidence Tarble ever met Freeza at all. @deathhero61: I'd confidentiality say the kids are above Piccolo and possibly Future Trunks.They fought 18 evenly in base form while pretending to be mighty mask.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 crapped her pants at a simple Ki blast they fired at her.Namek Goku isn't in the Kid's league in power. 10,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed; Online) Super Saiyan Edit. Super Saiyan Grade 3= Base x75. Super Saiyan 3= Base x400. 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